Dennis Hackethalhttps://blog.dennishackethal.com/Comments on post ‘The ‘Animal-Rights’ Community Is Based on Fear and Intimidation’ on Dennis Hackethal’s Blog2024-03-29T12:23:31+00:00dennis<p>Another attempt at intimidation in the context of bullfighting: <a href="https://twitter.com/clairelouwhoo/status/1433533542307295262" rel="ugc">https://twitter.com/clairelouwhoo/status/1433533542307295262</a></p>
https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/the-animal-rights-community-is-based-on-fear-a#comment-84Comment 84 by dennis2021-11-21T08:13:58Z2021-11-21T08:13:58Zdennis<p>In case “Fear and Intimidation” sounds like an unnecessary repetition: fear <em>keeps</em> people caring for animals, intimidation <em>recruits</em> people.</p>
https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/the-animal-rights-community-is-based-on-fear-a#comment-102Comment 102 by dennis2021-11-21T08:21:06Z2021-11-21T08:21:06Zdennis<p>Regarding “say you cut a puppy’s paw off, it cries out in pain, clearly it’s conscious, right? <em>Clearly</em> it is”, I just stumbled upon <a href="https://curi.us/2284-the-taking-children-seriously-and-fallible-ideas-communities#15263" rel="ugc">this comment</a> on Elliot Temple’s blog quoting a “TCS [Taking Children Seriously] leader”:</p>
<blockquote> <blockquote><p>But what if the dog is howling and yelping? Can’t we be sure it is expressing displeasure – telling us that it does not want to do this, for example? No. Plenty of people howl and yelp doing things they want to do. Look at masochists. Look at various sportsmen. Look at me when I am trying to edit an article: I moan and groan and howl in a most alarming way (I’m told) – but still I am doing something I <em>really want to do</em>.</p>
<p>I don’t think there is such a thing as what a dog wants (in the sense of having individual intentions arising out of its own free will), but if there <em>were</em>, I don’t think there would be any justification for assuming that it wants, for instance, to have a minimum of pain, any more than human beings always do. Human beings choose painful options over non-painful options all the time, and I am not just talking about masochists. It depends on whether the painful option seems better.</p>
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https://blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/the-animal-rights-community-is-based-on-fear-a#comment-145Comment 145 by dennis2021-11-24T07:45:54Z2021-11-24T07:45:54Z2024-03-29T12:23:31+00:00