Dennis Hackethal’s Blog
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An archive of my tweets and retweets through . They may be formatted slightly differently than on Twitter. API access has since gotten prohibitively expensive – I don't know whether or when I'll be able to update this archive.
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@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
I've explained why I'm not arguing in bad faith but you've maintained that stance anyway.
Is there anything I could do or say that would convince you otherwise? If not, I'm afraid this discussion serves no purpose because you laying into me will change neither your nor my mind.
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
and 2) because they immediately assume I’m sexist and that I would therefore favor men unfairly.
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
My guess so far has been that people allege that I wouldn't post it on a man's video because 1) they misunderstood the meme I posted to mean that no man shows his face in coding videos (that's false, of course, but also isn't what I meant)
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
Men aren't cute like women, so one has to find something that will work, but muscles turn many women on, I'm not making a direct comparison between faces and muscles.
And no, I'm not asking to be disparaging. If that was my goal, why did I not just leave a rude statement?
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
There are cases, however, where I would post it on men's videos. For instance, if a man did what I describe here: twitter.com/dchackethal/st…
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
Well, I have already explained why it's different for men (after you asked me to), so you could have inferred that I (generally) wouldn't post it on men's videos. It's not like I'm hiding that. So it simply isn't true that I'm arguing in bad faith.
RT @dchackethal:
Explain Irrational Minds!: blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/explain-…
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
The situation partly sucks for women because some men won’t take them seriously when they do look cute.
I’ve pointed out elsewhere in the replies that trying to shut this discussion down doesn’t do women any favors.
Please try reading it from a charitable POV.
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
Men won’t typically gain views or followers around coding videos for looking cute. It’s a lot harder for men to capitalize on good looks than for women. Partly because of differences in looks, partly because many men are a lot more desperate for sex than women.
@BrakNicholson @corg_e @trunarla
I don’t think I’m sexist but I’m open to being wrong about that.
In the replies I’ve been repeatedly accused of being misogynistic and I’ve repeatedly denied it.
But even if I hadn’t, why would that mean others are fine with it? What if I just don’t care for others’ approval in this matter?
Please provide a quote of mine that you think shows I think less of @trunarla because she’s a woman
Why you’re bringing race into this I do not know
RT @dvassallo:
Lessons:
• Coding is probably the most lucrative skill.
• USA salaries have almost no ceiling, unlike almost everywhere el…
i'm guessing feminism is strongly correlated with being a liberal, but fair enough
some employers don't consider moral disagreements a terminable offense either
they entertain the idea that they could be wrong
Because not every employer thinks like you, or considers political alignment necessary to hire people (or lack thereof a terminable offense)
RT @pickover:
This joke may be of interest to those of you interested in artificial intelligence, mathematics, computer programming, and ma…
i don't know who that is but probably not since men do it for different, imo uncontroversial reasons
review the ensuing discussions on my comment, variations of your question have been asked multiple times
@KieraStansMagik @trunarla
Yes, feminists (or what I imagine to be) are lovely and compassionate people: pic.twitter.com/DwUu2eHkkR
no one got hurt by this decision, i agree, but it'd be interesting to explore whether the decision itself is a result of a female culture that does often hurt women
sadly, this discussion is mostly shut down
Still, the fact that you even had to ask at all doesn’t bode well.
It seriously took Apple three months to validate your report? Weak.
RT @RonMasas:
Here is the story behind CVE-2022-32883, on how I was able to use Apple Maps to leak your precise location 🛰️🛰️🛰️!
https://t…
Google Maps is fun since it puts the coordinates in the URL.
Every place you seen is exposed using the CSS :visted le…
RT @firstofequals:
Our Glorious President Joseph Biden has done it!
RT @jbrowder1:
Credit repair companies offer to “fix your credit,” for hundreds or thousands of dollars.
We sent a DoNotPay employee to in…
Like, some women may describe overtly sexy outfits on other women as 'cute'. That's really stretching the meaning of the word.
Oh boy, bringing up the “distracting” point. 🙄
What's wrong with that?
Cute has the same definition, regardless of gender.
I disagree. I think men who are described as 'cute' have qualities different from those of women who are. There's also a difference in how men and women perceive women who are described as 'cute'.
no I'm quite comfortable around them
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
If you're annoyed I suggest again that we take a break. Otherwise I'm not sure how fruitful this conversation is going to be.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
That's a common but invalid method for judging ideas.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
Its super weird of you to claim that women inherenty have diffirent reasons to show their face.
That's not exactly what I said but you seem to be judging whether my view may be right by how much it differs from yours. If it differs sufficiently, you consider it to be false.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
You write carelessly btw, eg this tweet of yours is really bad in terms of spelling and grammar: twitter.com/MorkSamuel/sta…
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
I had previously looked through YouTube search results and also found lots of ppl with facecam.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
If the latter, I even granted that you may well be right when I wrote "But assuming you're right, I've explained that men do it for different reasons, and they profit from it in different ways."
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @trunarla @GIPHY
yes, it is obvious that most streamers have facecam. > Your insistance that this isnt the case [...]
My insistence that it's not obvious or that it isn't true that most streamers have facecam? If the former, pointing out once that the truth isn't obvious is hardly insisting.
Explain Irrational Minds!: blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/explain-…
I thought the movie was great but I couldn’t quite tell if Aaron Paul’s voice had really changed that much or if he was trying to sound like be Batman. Threw me off a little.
@paulg @engineers_feed @YouTube
I read somewhere that one shouldn't combine blockers because they can interfere with each other. Can't find the source right now.
RT @ComicDaveSmith:
The Martha’s Vineyard thing might be the best and clearest example of what so many of us have been talking about for ye…
And are these content creators almost always acting against yours or their own preferences, in your view?
Okay so that is your personal preference, not everyone in the world has the exact same preferences as you.
Of course not, but when you wrote:
Yeah, along with like pretty much every content creator regardless of their gender
weren't you implying that everyone shares yours?
@Nateemerson @denzilv @trunarla
To combat bullying and abuse...we should shame and blame...the target?
No, of course not.
Pls provide a quote where I "shame and blame" her.
For me that'd be a reason to leave out my face. Just so I and others can focus on the code.
Yeah, along with like pretty much every content creator regardless of their gender
I have created content around code and do not do it to gain social status.
I will admit though I do find it surprising that you're that preoccupied about your appearance for your videos.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
Some evidence that ugly women are treated the same by society as beautiful ones would help, too.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
So what does it take to make you admit you're wrong?
Probably an argument along the lines of why my understanding of the differences between male and female cultures is wrong, or one that shows that one shouldn't entertain that such differences even exist.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
But assuming you're right, I've explained that men do it for different reasons, and they profit from it in different ways.
I don't think I've ever claimed that men generally don't facecam, but a quote would easily convince me otherwise.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
You seem to be unwilling to admit the very obvious fact that nearly all successful streamers use facecam, including guys.
Again I don't think we have such statistics and even then calling it 'obvious' would be problematic.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
These things aren't obvious. The truth is hard to come by (Karl Popper).
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
You've been making [...] statements that are obviously false. [...] The problem isn't that I'm being [...] unwilling to consider your point [...]
Those sentences are directly at odds because by calling my view "obviously false" you absolutely are unwilling to consider it.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
And that only women get more views from having facecam...
I don't doubt that men get more views from having facecams.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
If you can show me that less than 50% of successful male streamers show their face cam, and that the reverse is true of women.
I'm not aware of any such statistics so that won't work.
@Nateemerson @t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
pls quote something i've said that's like the tweets i've linked to
@Nateemerson @denzilv @trunarla
ok, now consider that what i'm getting at might help alleviate those doldrums?
doesn't 'cute' mean something different for men and women?
couldn't some ppl find the face distracting and connect worse with the content as a result?
yes my bad i was looking at a later timestamp where the bottom third was just logs not code
@Nateemerson @t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
my intention is neither to objectify nor belittle, nor am i feeling funny or angry
you don't seem to be taking what i say literally. you're viewing it through your own prejudiced lens and then getting mad at me because you're reading things i didn't say
women do it to look attractive
no, they look attractive to gain followers and social status
they can't just do porn because it's heavily stigmatized, it would cause them to lose status (also porn is probably difficult to do for other reasons)
RT @RonPaul:
America was never meant to be an Empire.
Empire's go broke!
America was meant to be an example to the world. A "land of the…
RT @YasMohammedxx:
As much as I hate hijab, everything it stands for, and all the ways it harms women, I do not want it banned. I think tha…
RT @SahilBloom:
To make continuous improvements, here's a concept you must understand:
My guess is his claim was that I'm wrong because I lack social skills.
Moreover those two tweets are meant to show that I do not have a closed mind about this issue.
wow did you have this on hand or did you make this?
anyway i'm def open to being wrong about this, see
and
@Mikeymi72465975 @t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen @thephysicsgirl
i count three shots with her face
@Mikeymi72465975 @t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen @thephysicsgirl
the implication is that she's naked in the shower
men will see the thumbnail and click on it hoping they get to see as much skin as possible
@Mikeymi72465975 @t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen @thephysicsgirl
you sure? youtube.com/shorts/6kARg-U…
@t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
i think it'd be comparable if a muscular male programmer slightly flexed his muscles on screen, in a way you couldn't really call him on
plausible deniability is a big part of this
like if this guy chose to flex his tricep in the thumbnail. but he didn't! youtube.com/watch?v=fv0RkE…
@t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
I meant to say 'if I was pressed'
@t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
check out the comments underneath her video:
twitter.com/jamie__pete/st…
twitter.com/RajerTuring/st…
twitter.com/Esqueda_LopezC…
twitter.com/Michaelsenesie…
twitter.com/PatrickDRobert…
twitter.com/hamzasindhu13/…
twitter.com/alanfans/sta…
lol the last one
@t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
compare to this guy that i picked more or less at random youtube.com/watch?v=h1vQb9…
he's not trying to look cute or desirable at all
he's got some pimples on his face, no makeup (not insulting just describing)
still unnecessary to see his face imo but his intentions are different
@t3dotgg @PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @ThePrimeagen
it's different for men because it's less about looking desirable
on the surface the linked video is about coding but it's also a lot about looking attractive
if was pressed for both time and real estate i wouldn't show my face at all but that's just me
@PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @t3dotgg @ThePrimeagen
at 44 secs she has to move her face around so it doesn't cover up the code
@PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @t3dotgg @ThePrimeagen
Yes but the point is Pokimane will get more followers for advertising her sexuality.
also look at this one: twitter.com/pokecoder/stat…
ffw to 10 seconds
@PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @t3dotgg @ThePrimeagen
No, I’m saying he streams his face for different reasons than Pokimane
However, if you're convinced otherwise, that's on you.
I just said I'm open to being wrong about this.
Name some of the data points please?
@PeteRockefeller @trunarla @benawad @t3dotgg @ThePrimeagen
I haven't seen theirs but those of men that I have seen they just happen to be handsome but that's not a significant part of why they're streaming their faces.
Compare pewdiepie and pokimane and tell me you don't see a difference there?
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
Well, it seems your mind is made up. Or is there some way one could convince you that you're wrong?
Good. Your video is plain, there's nothing distracting from the code, you won't gain followers or social status for looking cute.
Compare your video with e.g. pokimane's
I'm open to the idea that I lack social skills, but I don't think you know enough about me to conclude that I lack them.
Yes but when men do it they don't do it to look cute and gain followers that way.
When men show their faces while streaming it's usually not to look cute. E.g. compare pewdiepie and pokimane. It's different culturally.
There's about equal space for her and the code.
I've seen lots of videos about code that don't feature anyone's face, e.g. youtube.com/user/briantwill
I've also seen a video from a female creator whose face was actually covering part of the code
Not confused
"please stop embarrassing yourself publicly and stirring up pointless controversy" sounds rather nasty, not polite
you also haven't seen his DMs which weren't particularly polite either
I'm not triggered by a female, but that allegation is a typical woke strategy to intimidate opponents into submission.
I'm talking about other girls because I'm referring to the meme I posted, which does, too.
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
and that you find this discussion funny
@MorkSamuel @DuncJake @VapeJuiceJordan @trunarla
That you're "not really mad".
But ok, I understand if you'd rather not continue.