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@Azaeres @onnlucky @SerhiiHavrylov
That is precisely how an AGI does not learn. It’s induction again.
@Azaeres @onnlucky @SerhiiHavrylov
How do you know it will take immense resources without having a good explanation of how the program works first?
@onnlucky @Azaeres @SerhiiHavrylov
Indeed. We already know that modern day computers could run a universal creativity program. What's lacking here is neither hardware nor processing power: we lack a good explanation of how to write the program.
If resources were the problem, we would gladly wait to run it if we had a good explanation of how it works.
Bayesianism is inductivism in a cheap tuxedo. Has nothing to do with creativity. See bretthall.org/bayesian-epist… by @ToKTeacher
The problem with inductive processes is that they don’t exist.
Re intractable: I don’t know what you mean by “holistic nature”, but our minds are creative somehow, so it can’t be intractable. We just don’t yet know how.
I skimmed it. The causal approach is the right one. Also reading up on program synthesis now.
@SpaceTime_A @DavidDeutschOxf @ToKTeacher
Great question - I have no idea :)
It is creativity. And we are beginning to understand it. Baby steps :)
@ChristopherCode @dela3499 @DavidDeutschOxf
I responded in the document in purple.
@ChristopherCode @dela3499 @DavidDeutschOxf
Indeed. E.g. for objects in JS, Clojure etc one first needs an explanation of how to map keys reliably to values: a hash function. We know from lambda calculus that any such concepts can be built from pure, single parameter functions, because it is Turing complete.
Yeah, that’d be pretty neat. Being a universal explainer, the creative algorithm could do so.
@Doxosophoi
What do you mean by “epistemological facts”? Do you mean rules such as hard to vary? If so, my guess is knowledge of those rules is the result of the creative algorithm as well. If your question is how the creative algorithm creates new explanations, I haven’t covered that yet.
First time reading about this, too. First impression: Sounds like Occam’s razor applied to functions. I’m after good function implementations, which need not be the shortest. The best implementation of multiplication in this episode only happens to be the shortest, IIRC.
First time reading about Solomonoff’s inductive inference, so may be missing something. Wikipedia says it “is a theory of prediction based on logical observations”. Sounds inductive to me. Too focused on observation. No mention of knowledge creation as far as I can tell.
The podcast is now available on Apple Podcasts:
Thank you for reminding me. Episode 5 you will probably want to watch on YouTube since it heavily relies on video, but all others so far you can now listen to on Apple Podcasts as well: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pod…
Today I learned that some recursive functions cannot be written in iterative form:
The fifth episode of the podcast on artificial creativity is out. This time it's a video episode. As always, heavily inspired by @DavidDeutschOxf.
@krazyander @ToKTeacher @RealtimeAI @DoqxaScott
One of the points of h2v is that you don’t even need to bother testing e2v theories.
@krazyander @ToKTeacher @RealtimeAI @DoqxaScott
You observe a conjuring trick and want to explain how it’s done. The explanation “the conjurer did something” has a lot of “evidential support” - you saw him doing something - but that’s a bad explanation b/c easy to vary. Doesn’t explain what he did and applies to any trick.
Glad to hear! Currently working on episode five, which will be about how the epistemological concepts we covered in episode four apply to computer programs and what that means. Hopefully ready to release soon!
@RealtimeAI @krazyander @ToKTeacher @DoqxaScott
You can tell an explanation is a hard to vary if you try to change parts of it and you end up diminishing its ability to fulfill its purpose. I.e. an explanation is hard to vary vis-a-vis a problem it purports to solve. Pick any theory and try changing parts; if difficult, h2v.
I guess that the flaws you mention are generally the result of irrational memes and/or bad explanations.
In order:
Not generally. A chemistry lab may blow up during an experiment or something, but that’s an exception. Extinction of ideas is fundamentally non violent.
Those may all be drivers but can be overwritten. GPPS still susceptible to irrational memes.
Thanks for listening :) It's part of the appendix of his book "Objective Knowledge": amazon.com/Objective-Know…
Got it. Yes. Two possibilities that could make you correct in the first place:
1) if creativity is solely genetic and requisite knowledge of DNA created (so indirectly caused their own understanding)
2) understanding means replication so genes “understand” themselves in a way.
I watched it on the assumption that that's the one. I can see now how extinction can be seen as a constructor of future possibilities. Still unclear about your remark re DNA/RNA.
RT @fermatslibrary:
B. F. Goodrich Company patented a Möbius strip conveyor belt. It lasts longer since the wear and tear is spread uniform…
Huh, you're right. @DavidDeutschOxf, have you changed your mind on people being universal constructors?
@EvanOLeary do you mean the video on this page? edge.org/conversation/c…
Problems also don't label ideas. If that were the case there'd be information about new knowledge already existing. That'd be induction.
BoI p. 59 "[People] are 'universal constructors'".
p. 76 a constructor is "a device capable of causing other objects to undergo transformations without undergoing any net changes itself".
A problem is a conflict between theories. It doesn't do anything.
People are constructors. I don't think problems are.
Creativity is the only thing I know of capable of creating explanations. As David says in BoI, the creative program may be part genetic, part meme.
Nervous systems on their own don't create explanations. They're just hardware
The podcast is now on YouTube as well. I plan to make a video or two that have screen recordings to show some code, so having all episodes there for context seems to make sense.
Not sure what you mean. Knowledge in DNA not explanatory. At most it explains how to spread through population at expense of rivals.
RT @PessimistsArc:
1981: "If teachers don't stand up to the growing invasion of computers in the classroom, there's a good chance literacy…
Episode 4 of the podcast on artificial creativity is out. Again, heavily inspired by @DavidDeutschOxf.
Sure, if you like. :) That’s more of a science though, since it’s falsifiable by observation.
Many scientists have the wrong PoS (empiricism, instrumentalism, positivism). That can lead them astray since there is no way to do science without PoS. But they all have one. And when they do create knowledge anyway, they’re doing something that’s the object of the study of PoS.
@WiringTheBrain @PrincetonUPress
For the wiring of our brains to shape who we are, it would need to violate the universality of computation.
I haven’t watched it yet, but in case it’s related: I explain in episode three why contributions to AGI based on neuroscience would likely need to violate the universality of computation.
The podcast is now on @Spotify... Approval on Apple podcasts still pending.
It's pending review on Apple Podcasts. Will roll out to more apps as well.
The third episode of the series on artificial creativity is out, again heavily inspired by @DavidDeutschOxf: soundcloud.com/dchacke/artifi…
@thethinkersmith @DavidDeutschOxf
Wow, thank you :) I'm glad you like it!
The second episode of the series on artificial creativity is out: soundcloud.com/dchacke/artifi…
Starting an audio series on artificial creativity, heavily inspired by @DavidDeutschOxf. soundcloud.com/dchacke/artifi…
Do I have your permission to quote some passages from The Beginning of Infinity for a podcast series I am planning to make?
Or rather, their implementation is still “prescribed”, but their output is not exactly predictable. Input/output pairs can’t be reliably reproduced.
I’m not sure. Isn’t creativity encoded in our genes and must therefore be programmable?
Not being able to relate output to input in a prescribed way just means the program isn’t pure. Eg Math.random(), Date.now(), etc. Those functions are impure but programmable.
RT @DavidDeutschOxf:
Foul.
In every "Before allowing them to read"
The mind-forg'd manacles I hear. twitter.com/nfergus/status…
The reason I ask is because I think it means something else - assuming you’re using the term the same way it’s used in “universal explainer” for example - but I want to make sure I understand your position first.
“We cannot get away from the laws of physics. They apply to everything all the time, that’s what “universal” means.” podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tok… at 11:15
@ToKTeacher Can you please elaborate on what you think “universal” means?
RT @webdevMason:
Westerners now have such a reflexive tendency to associate having society-level preferences at all with a rapacious colo…
RT @HumanProgress:
The radicalization of the environmentalist movement, as seen on the streets of London over the past week, is acceleratin…
What's the third picture? Presumably Germany minus French occupied land? And something's missing in Silesia there, too?
"The Creative Brain" on Netflix is a great example of the nonsense neuroscientists spew about creativity.
@ReachChristofer @reasonisfun @ToKTeacher @AndrewREsquibel
I wonder if some brains are slower than other solely in terms of hardware. My guess is “no” or “negligibly so” unless there are genetic mutations.
Apparently @DavidDeutschOxf speaks German, too? daviddeutsch.org.uk/donna-clara/
@ToKTeacher @TheCrookedMan @DavidDeutschOxf @SGerbies @timbutterly @HermesofReason @webdevMason
That is so cool!
RT @PessimistsArc:
1878: Thomas Edison proves a cynic wrong, blowing his mind by proving sound can be captured and replayed. Podcast: https…
RT @PessimistsArc:
Real fears about the 🚲
• Turning us into hunchbacks
• Making women too independent
• Making women dress indecently (n…
RT @DavidDeutschOxf:
@reasonisfun @robinhanson
Setting aside one's own curiosity in favour of what one (or someone) thinks important is a c…
“The sense of self that is lost during those moments of epiphany [while meditating] is just that: the loss of personhood, not a glimpse into the true nature of self.” Very well said @ToKTeacher podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tok…
RT @DavidDeutschOxf:
Prophecies. twitter.com/HumanProgress/…
And today it’s @elonmusk et al talking about AI risks.
My response: “We haven’t really cracked artificial creativity yet, and it’s just nagging me”. Then they just get confused and turn away. :)
@Crit_Rat
Progress opposing fools. They could have written the same about horses hundreds of years ago.
Chinese medicine is bullshit. You’re taking advantage of gullible people. Reported.
@davidarredondo @DavidDeutschOxf @ks445599 @Crit_Rat @desgren
My guess is quantum computation, but can’t say for sure.
I admire David for remaining so composed in the face of the nonsense Rees says. Many would have gotten frustrated rather quickly.
RT @EmilyDreyfuss:
Just a few telepresence robots hobnobbing at #TED2019, one of whom is physicist @DavidDeutschOxf https://t.co/TriHuNUUv9
@Ptolemy_3 @DoqxaScott @EricRWeinstein
It is not faith. We have good explanations of what progress is and how it works and why, as well as how and why it’s attainable.
Wenn dich AI interessiert, hör dir das mal an. Hoffe, dir geht’s bald besser. cbc.ca/amp/1.4696754
It's a never ending, beautiful journey. twitter.com/Calvinn_Hobbes…
Also nonsense. Our minds are much better than any other animal's because we can create new explanatory knowledge. Innovations help us prosper. Progress is achievable and has been achieved only thanks to reason and science. Advocating against using "too much" reason is anti-human.
Nonsense. People are universal explainers, unlimited progress is possible. Read "The Beginning of Infinity" by David Deutsch.
- What’s the issue with logic, reason and science? Name one case where using them less would be better.
- We don’t put faith in them. That would itself be illogical, unreasonable and unscientific. Faith means “don’t ask questions”.
RT @ToKTeacher:
Justified True Belief. https://t.co/e8IdnlIVIL
Is this a little bit like life? And if so, would understanding the origin of life help us understand how creativity works, and vice versa?
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The creative algorithm was originally used to replicate memes. When turned on itself, it tries to replicate creativity (e.g. in AGI research); it tries to replicate itself.
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As in “falsifiable by observation”? It can’t be. It’s a philosophical principle. You can criticize it, though.