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@petegrif

Why didn’t it program it in us?

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“Chinese state employees physically manage the computers.” Yikes twitter.com/OrinKerr/statu…

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@petegrif

It’s like I say in the article: programming creativity must be possible, otherwise evolution couldn’t have programmed it in us.

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@petegrif

Some people think computers can’t be creative but that’s because they don’t understand computational universality.

I think computers can be creative, conscious, have free will, etc. and I’m trying to figure out how to program that.

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@petegrif

Yes.

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@petegrif

I interpreted "But fire that mean that their" to mean "But that doesn't mean that their" but I may be wrong about that...

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@petegrif

Such judges may erroneously come to the conclusion that a program is creative because they're using behavioristic criteria, yes. But an automaton that looks creative still isn't creative.

And just because behavioristic criteria are invalid doesn't mean I ended the debate by fiat

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@petegrif

But you seem a bit annoyed with what I'm writing ("so what", "that's kind of the point") and it sounds like your mind is made up anyway, so...

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@petegrif

I think fun and creativity are intimately related, so much so that creativity is a necessary condition for having fun. It follows that if alpha zero isn't having fun it's not creative. It was meant as a refutation of your view that alpha zero is creative.

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@ewarren

This is so misleading. A few percent of billions is much more than a higher percentage of thousands.

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@Tomi_Tapio

Does the number of people disagreeing with a claim influence whether that claim is true?

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@Tomi_Tapio

Right on. They're all physical (and therefore deterministic).

And this reminds me: since computations are physical processes (Deutsch), and all physical processes are deterministic, all computations must be deterministic.

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@Tomi_Tapio

Indeed. He makes a good case for it. :)

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@Tomi_Tapio

Again, by no means an expert on quantum physics, but from what I've learned from David Deutsch's "The Beginning of Infinity" it would seem that quantum physics is likewise deterministic. Some things look random only from our parochial, single-universe perspective.

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@Tomi_Tapio

OK but what generates the "random" noise? Is it not light?

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@eggheadio

By being a user of the product I'm building.

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@TheAtlasSociety

And that purpose can be fulfilled by private corporations too...

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@Tomi_Tapio

These examples seem to me quasi indeterministic and quasi unpredictable for practical purposes. As in, overwhelmingly much information would be needed to predict the next state. That works fine for some applications, but it's different from being unpredictable in principle.

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@Tomi_Tapio

Re pseudorandom number generators: they're just that—pseudo.

Using photos for that is a cool idea but how light bumps off of objects and enters the phone's camera is deterministic, too...

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@Tomi_Tapio

A place full of cats sounds great, but I think when cats meow is deterministic, too, and so is a collection of cats meowing. Cats have an algorithm in their brains that instructs them to meow when certain conditions are met and that algorithm is deterministic like all others.

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@petegrif

I don't doubt that they play to win, especially elite players, but people can and often do play for fun, which is something alpha zero cannot do.

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@dvassallo

You shouldn't have to pay either one.

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@petegrif

Alpha Zero plays mindlessly. Human chess players do not. They have insights, feelings, interests, etc while they play. And, as David Deutsch has pointed out, they play for fun, and not always to win. Alpha Zero always plays to win. I don't think it can do otherwise.

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@jchalupa_

And yes, my understanding is that quantum computers are vastly faster for some (but not all) algorithms compared to a classical computer. And I think for all other algorithms quantum computers are always at least as fast as classical ones since qcs can simulate ccs.

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@Tomi_Tapio

I don't know what "cattery noise" is, but the other sources I don't think are random...

There's one source of unpredictability (but not randomness) I can think of: the user. But we can't depend on users when building creativity. :)

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@jchalupa_

You're right that there is quantum computation, but I think it also follows the prevailing conception. (I'm no expert on quantum computation by any means, so big grain of salt here.)

This is important so I'll add a comment under my post for clarification.

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RT @dvassallo:
Today the US government will wrap up collecting almost 4 trillion USD in taxes. And if you don’t pay, someone with a gun wil…

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@Tomi_Tapio

Why do you think those are not predictable? Is it the introduction of a random-number generator?

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@AskRamiRustom

Apart from the fact that text strings are easier to remember than numbers, every position in a text string can hold more information than a number (23 instead of 10). So while short strings are possibly gibberish at least some people will have short ones that are meaningful.

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@AskRamiRustom

Then how come we don't see that happening with web domains, emails, user handles etc? If "peter" is taken someone'll take something like "peterinsanfrancisco" instead. Which is still easier to remember than a phone number.

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@jchalupa_

I did point out that there may be other modes of programming and more to computational universality than we currently know.

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@jchalupa_

Mindless automation, not abstraction, but yes.

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@petegrif

I have read about alpha zero. It plays differently from how humans would play.

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@Tomi_Tapio

To be clear, I am aware of "AIs" generating art, which could be considered "creative" in some artistic sense. But they do it mindlessly.

"Creativity" in the epistemological (Popperian) sense I use is what the mind is. And it's kinda orthogonal to art.

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Why isn't there something like DNS for phone numbers yet? So instead of calling "415-555-1234" you could call "peter"?

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@ks445599

So it seems like there are at least two sub-categories within the indeterministic category: probabilistic and creative.

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@ks445599

Nice, yes, it can't imply that, since creativity isn't probabilistic either. One can't assign a probability to the discovery X being made tomorrow because one can't even say what X is yet.

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@ClimateWarrior7

She identifies as a male dog.

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Creativity is unpredictable in principle. Computer programs, on the other hand, are deterministic and predictable. So how could creativity possibly be programmed?

I answer this question in my new blog post: blog.dennishackethal.com/posts/two-gues…

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RT @gleason_colum:
Of all the terror organizations—from ISIS to Boko Haram—none have built brand equity faster than Hamas and Palestinian I…

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RT @SpaceX:
Deployment of 52 Starlink satellites confirmed https://t.co/QqPbBl9gBz

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Shouldn't it say "because of lower gun ownership"? twitter.com/2AWisdom/statu…

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How do lockdown supporters explain this? How do they explain that the world hasn't exploded yet even though Texas is open? twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/…

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

OK but "I will force you if I can't persuade you" isn't very persuasive...

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

It's not pessimistic because I don't prophesy that he will kill himself no matter what. It's optimistic because I'm saying that persuasion can change his mind.

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RT @ClimateWarrior7:
We need more visionary leaders with ruthless iron will who are ready to hold these people down and inject them forcibl…

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

Also, there are two ways to achieve someone not killing themselves: force or persuasion. Why just discount persuasion in favor of force? Force isn’t the only way.

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

Yes, we should, eventually. Forcing someone to live who doesn’t want to live sounds evil. We shouldn’t go around forcing unsolicited help on people. That’s a recipe for tyranny.

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@JonNichEdwards @DavidDeutschOxf @alex_sukhovey @iamFilos @ernsterlanson

So, by implication, advertising "junk foods" is evil?

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

But if he's stopped arbitrarily he can never test his technology. Maybe it turns out safely swimming in a mercury lake is incredibly fun. We can be wrong about things.

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

He may have really good reasons to do it but just doesn't feel like explaining himself to you. Maybe he's developed a piece of clothing that protects him and he wants to try it out. But he also wants to keep his technology a secret for now. So he won't tell you.

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

It's like I said: urge him not to do it. Explain the consequences. If he still wants to do it let him do it. If he wants to ruin his life let him.

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@JonNichEdwards @DavidDeutschOxf @alex_sukhovey @iamFilos @ernsterlanson

What connection do you see between serial killers and advertisers?

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RT @rickhanlonii:
cdc says we can stop sanitizing html

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@rejectnation @OnePerfectShot @MouthDork

The guy looks a bit like Walter White. Which makes me think they should make an animated spin-off of Breaking Bad.

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RT @jordanbpeterson:
How can this possibly not be in violation of Canadian Human Rights laws? And if not how can those laws be worth the p…

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@paulg

Or maybe playing the long game is necessary for success but not sufficient. (But it doesn't strike me as necessary either.)

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@paulg

"all the successful founders are playing the long game" doesn't mean there can't be arbitrarily many founders who play the long game but aren't successful. So we don't really know if playing the long game makes you a successful founder, which you seem to imply.

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RT @popper1902:
New Popper video 🥳

youtube.com/watch?v=ALlCLJ…

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RT @firstofequals:
The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.

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@rafrasenberg

Just make all variables global.

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@denicmarko

You may want to call it "opacity" not "transparency" since a value of 0 makes it completely transparent and 1 completely opaque.

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf @SamHarrisOrg

In any case, I don't want to speak for others, these are just my two cents/a reflection of what I understood things to mean. :)

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf @SamHarrisOrg

By implication—this is just my interpretation, I could well be wrong of course—this means that science should not be the only factor in human decision-making, and when it is, that means other factors are blocked arbitrarily, and that's not good.

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf @SamHarrisOrg

So Ernst offered an explanation for why the term "obesity" might be scientism, with which David agreed ("yes") and expanded that making moral choices and talking about them are human rights.

twitter.com/DavidDeutschOx…

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf @SamHarrisOrg

For the "yes" to refer to a tweet, that tweet must have come before the "yes". The "yes" was a response to this question from Ernst: twitter.com/ernsterlanson/…

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@SeekingApatheia @MagnetThatcher @krlwlzn @petegrif @iamFilos @DavidDeutschOxf

Can you summarize the crit-rat libertarian position in such a way that they would happily sign off on it?

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf

Did you click on the tweet I linked to expand that thread and see what his “yes” refers to?

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@MagnetThatcher @petegrif @iamFilos @krlwlzn @DavidDeutschOxf

Why don't libertarians do the work of criticising coercive advertising […]

Probably because we don’t think advertising is coercive. (Whereas banning advertising is.)

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@iamFilos @alex_sukhovey @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

Many reasons. One is that it’s not for us to say how others should live their lives.

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@CausalCulture @Pandurevich @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

Re mercury lake: Yes I think that would be coercion. You can explain the dangers and strongly urge him not to do it. But whether he does it is still up to him, and preventing him from doing so against his will is coercion.

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@alex_sukhovey @DavidDeutschOxf @ernsterlanson

It doesn’t mean we should ban them, either.

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@ChrisGuk1 @DavidDeutschOxf

The term “obesity” is a signal of scientism, not obesity itself. David explains why in the tweet below. Basically what to eat and what to talk about are moral decisions, not scientific ones, and letting science steamroll over morals is a symptom of scientism. twitter.com/DavidDeutschOx…

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@iamFilos @krlwlzn @petegrif @DavidDeutschOxf

The “as in” does not seem to describe scientism but seems to be meant to.

Also, I suppose the question is how we jump from “these foods are bad for you” to “let’s ban advertisement of these foods”. There’s a logical and moral gap there.

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@strangetruther @bnielson01

I think you’d like Deutsch’s work. He says if you can’t program it you haven’t understood it. (And I think to understand something is to program it, if only mentally.) Since they can’t program it (that would have made the news by now!) their claim that they explain it is false.

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@strangetruther @bnielson01

I meant David Deutsch. I have no opinion on whether Daniel Dennett is a clear thinker.

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@bnielson01 @strangetruther

Ah! I see my mistake.

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@strangetruther @bnielson01

You’re clever enough. When an author is hard to understand, that’s on the author, not you.

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@strangetruther @bnielson01

Curious why you find it difficult? He's one of the clearest thinkers I can think of.

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RT @MarkBFadel:
https://t.co/7QorlqLdi3

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@brbascript

It probably was.

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@Frank34807286 @nachoiacovino

Great, do that.

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RT @SenatorBrakey:
Joe Biden says 22 million Americans lost their jobs due to the pandemic.

That's not accurate.

22 million Americans los…

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RT @DaFeid:
German Federal Medical Association

"Families with children can only regain equal participation in society with vaccinated chil…

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@liberty_deity

Sadly, some might interpret this as saying that one should sacrifice liberty to get equality.

So depending on where the reader stands on the liberty vs equality tension he’ll come to two very different conclusions.

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@SwipeWright

Hey at least she has her pronouns in her bio… :)

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RT @popper1902:
New(ish) video, Popper on induction: youtube.com/watch?v=RB52xa…

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@symbioso_ev

Mal gucken, ob der Artikel nicht bald geaendert wird. Habe ihn in der Zwischenzeit archiviert: web.archive.org/web/2021050919…

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@symbioso_ev @gerda_alice

Interessant, dass im letzten Satz implizit zugegeben wird, dass auch die Demokratie die Kontrolle des Volkes zum Ziel hat.

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@_Islamicat

Is not black so is probably racialist

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I wanted the same thing as a kid. Also with money so you don't need to go to the ATM. twitter.com/thedaoistpunk/…

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RT @realchrisrufo:
SCOOP: The Walt Disney Corporation claims that America was founded on “systemic racism,” encourages employees to comple…

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@_Islamicat

Is smart

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RT @realchrisrufo:
🚨I'll be on @TuckerCarlson tonight to unveil my first investigative report on "woke capital." We'll reveal shocking inte…

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RT @TheBabylonBee:
Liberals Replace Offensive Term ‘Woman’ With ‘Child Factory Who Bleeds’
babylonbee.com/news/liberals-…

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RT @_PauI__:
@abirballan @NickHudsonCT

https://t.co/4PWcvDIO9D

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